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Acceptable Loss History Asia Southeast Asia Kregg P. Jorgenson Ivy Books 1ST edition

21st November 2012 History Books 37 Comments

The true-to-life story of a Ranger who volunteered to serve on a Blue Team in the Air Cavalry, racing to the aid of soldiers who faced the same dangers he had barely survived in the jungles of Vietnam. Whether enduring NVA sniper attacks, surviving “friendly” fire, or landing in hot LZs, Jorgenson discovered that in Vietnam you never knew whether you were paranoid or just painfully aware of the possibilities.

The true-to-life story of a Ranger who volunteered to serve on a Blue Team in the Air Cavalry, racing to the aid of soldiers who faced the same dangers he had barely survived in the jungles of Vietnam. Whether enduring NVA sniper attacks, surviving "friendly" fire, or landing in hot LZs, Jorgenson discovered that in Vietnam you never knew whether you were paranoid or just painfully aware of the possibilities.

Acceptable Loss

The Killing Zone: My Life in the Vietnam War

Frederick Downs Jr. received four Purple Hearts, the Bronze Star with Valor, and the Silver Star for his service in the Vietnam War. He lives in Fort Washington, Maryland.

The best damned book from the point of view of the infantrymen who fought there.Army Times

Among the best books ever written about men in combat, The Killing Zone tells the story of the platoon of Delta One-six, capturing what it meant to face lethal danger, to follow orders, and to search for the conviction and then the hope that this war was worth the sacrifice. The book includes a new chapter on what happened to the platoon members when they came home.

The Killing Zone: My Life in the Vietnam War

  • 37 responses to "Acceptable Loss History Asia Southeast Asia Kregg P. Jorgenson Ivy Books 1ST edition"

  • It's official!
    4:33 on November 21st, 2012
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    Kregg Jorgenson should be recognized as one of the finest authors on the Vietnam war. Acceptable Loss is his first effort and set the tone for every subsequent work. If you want to know why “America’s finest” served during this unpopular war, and why they gave their best, read Acceptable Loss and then pick up the rest of Jorgenson’s works. You’ll come away feeling patriotic and proud to be an American. Thanks, Kregg.

  • kodes
    5:53 on November 21st, 2012
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    This book is on the “Recommended Reading List” of Vietnam Veterans of America, Chapter 295, Indianapolis, Indiana.

  • futhmblsbxl
    6:27 on November 21st, 2012
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    I served with the 1st Cav. Div. A 2/20 ARA at Tay Ninh Vietnam during the time period described by the author. As a matter of fact, we were stationed right next door to each other. Our unit had the first generation of Cobra attack helicopters and our pilots flew many fire support missions for the 1/9 Blues. Mr. Jorgenson describes in great detail, and very accurately, what the Blues were all about and what a 19 year old was expected to do. He also describes the range of emotions a combat solider feels before, during and after contact with the enemy. This book is actually like “being there” and the only thing missing is the smell of the jungle. This book should be on the required reading list for every high school student in the country.

  • Khurram S Zaveri
    7:09 on November 21st, 2012
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    It is a good book written on the Vietnam war. The author, veteran from the Rangers volunteered for the LRRP engaged in Cambodia in 1969/1970. He succeeds in outliving 54 missions. The book is a a beautiful testimony of a great soldier.

  • gremes
    9:14 on November 21st, 2012
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    This is one of those books that you don’t want to put down. The writer has a way of bringing you into the book so you can almost feel the same emotions that he felt. Very informative and highly entertaining, definantly a must read for any reader that enjoys this exciting, history drivin, real person portrayols of life in Vietnam.

  • tablet
    12:23 on November 21st, 2012
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    This book really paints a great picture a a guy who is born into service. From the start you can see how driven he is and the test he endures both to get into the various special units and once within them are truly amazing.

    A thoroughly enjoyable read that gives you that ‘wish you where there feeling’

  • Martin Wilson
    13:37 on November 21st, 2012
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    The easy style of writing about this hard topic, and the fact that it is a true account and not a sensationalized account of Downs’ and his platoon’s experiences during his 1967-68 tour, made it very comfortable to read but will make it hard for me to forget. The questionable triumphs and unquestionable tragedies of the operations, and the intelligent consideration of the policies and tactical operations mirrored my own experiences In Country, and Downs’ reflective and somewhat self-appraising warts-and-all style give appropriate respect to and criticism of the men of Delta 1/6. It’s a lick on us.

  • Telma Cuffman
    14:27 on November 21st, 2012
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    I read this book quite some time ago, not long after I had the pleasure of meeting the author at a school function on the Vietnam War. I have been fascinated by the Vietnam War ever since meeting the author (who happened to grow up in my hometown). I found the book eye-opening and easy to read, especially for those of us who do not have a military background. I felt his platoon’s pain, as well as their excitement. All in all, what this man, and thousands like him went through is something that each American should appreciate.

  • S Priest
    18:35 on November 21st, 2012
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    Fred Downs worked for me when he was recovering from his wounds at Fitzsimmons General Hospital outside of Denver, Colorado. The events in the book were described by some of his friends who were there and are very accurately portrayed in the book. Fred’s impact on the wounded at the hospital was almost as spectacular as his adventures in Vietnam and he was an inspiration to everyone around him. I still remember him after 35 years and I am willing to bet everyone who knew him feels the same way. Read the book and you will see why Fred is such a special person. (Someone should ask him to write about his experiences in the hospital and his adventures while he was there.)

  • Maarten
    18:47 on November 21st, 2012
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    I have to admit that after reading Kregg Jorgenson’s book that I have begun to think differently of Vietnam. He gives a truthful account of the brutalness of war. The descriptions and the situations are very well described and I felt as I was living vicariously through his accounts. If you have an interest in the war and the not just the media account of it, read this book and you will see through the eyes of the soldier.

  • Henrik
    20:40 on November 21st, 2012
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    “The Army gave us two parachutes. If the first one fails, open the emergency then when you land there will be a truck on the drop zone to bring you guys in. As I leaped from the plane, the guy behind me had his first chute fail, then his emergency chute failed and as he flew by me at 120 mph I heard him say, “I bet the truck aint there either”".

    The above is a story one G.I. tells another in the book. Obviously a joke but the irony of the story is something you adopt having served time in the Army. Kregg Jorgenson takes us through his tour of Vietnam where he landed as a gung-ho, let me at em boot and left the war a year later, wiser, 10 years older with a cynicism reserved only for those who have been in combat.

    Kregg volunteered for the Rangers pretty much as soon as he arrived in Vietnam. 5 man teams sent out on reconnaissance missions into hostile territory. He tells his mission stories with both humor and seriousness. He enjoyed what he did despite the fear he felt. After a spell on Ranger teams he joined the Air Cav, 1st of the 9th as a “Blue”. The missions mainly involved rescuing downed chopper pilots inside enemy held territory.

    He has a no nonsense way of telling his story and you can feel the gung-ho, spit, shine nature he landed in Vietnam with erode from the middle outwards as he sees friends get killed or maimed, and as he sees friends and trusted team member rotate out of Vietnam back to the world. Despite the erosion and eventual disappearance of the “John Wayne” spirit he retained his professional edge as far as doing his job. He struggles with his inner thoughts and guilt about the situation. The guilt is only magnified once he receives the Silver Star for bravery in combat. Unfortunately this was the same battle where he lost a good friend.

    As his time in country and his reputation with his buddies grows and, after he is seriously injured he is offered “soft” jobs which he wants to accept but, due to his nature and his torment, he turns them down again and again. Even a serious wound to his legs doesn’t help him accept a soft job. Once out the hospital he is back with his team doing what they do best, rescuing downed airmen.

    I particularly enjoyed Jorgenson letting us inside his head as he deals with his thoughts and his guilt. The fear is always there but with each siren heralding a new mission the adrenaline rush overcame the fear somewhat and he’d go back out. 54 missions and 3 purple hearts later he came back home. A true hero.

    This is a great book and a fast read. One worthy of your time if you are a big Vietnam none-fiction fan.

  • Constantijn
    20:53 on November 21st, 2012
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    Author I think accuratly portrays the infantryman in Viet Nam. Highly decorated, he hits right on what the mindset was of a combat soldier.

    I highly recommend it.

  • londonprincess
    22:04 on November 21st, 2012
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    This and Aftermath SHOULD be required reading for AP High School history courses or at least college level. You will understand and “appreciate” the Vietnam war experience of the combat soldier during this harrowing time both at home and away. As stated previously, the book(s) are very well composed and easy to read!

  • Naive
    23:15 on November 21st, 2012
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    I felt this book gave a true look at the first hand experiences of what happened throught the eyes of this person during the Vietnam War. This book was very hard to put down. There was much anticipation of what was going to happen next. It was a very interesting and compelling read.

  • Old Pecksniff
    1:24 on November 22nd, 2012
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    The book is simply a day-by-day account of the author’s combat experiences in Vietnam in 1965.

    He doesn’t mention it, but he must have kept a journal or diary of some kind, as he writes very specifically about each day.

    The book is very simply written and, unlike Phil Caputo’s “A Rumor of War”, this book is totally unpretentious. The author simply gives you the facts as he experienced them, with little commentary. No geopolitical commentary; no biases tinged by later events. If you want to know what the soldier in the field went through, this is the book.

  • hindude
    3:30 on November 22nd, 2012
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    I have been reading war stories since I was 12 years old (non fiction). My reading has covered all American Wars from the Civil War to Viet Nam. I have a collection of aroud 300 that I kept. This book is at the top of the list on Viet Nam and very high on all war books. The author tells it like it is . Most books on Viet Nam are about the marines with a lot of propaganda about the good old corps. The author tells of all the sensations he goes through, being afraid, the terror of being wounded. the allmost disreguard of the top brass. Should be read by all

  • Moe Green
    4:44 on November 22nd, 2012
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    An outstanding story of a young Army lieutenant who pretty much saw it all. And in less than six months. From the time he arrived, through his harrowing and agonizing encounters with Charlie, he tells it like it was. Anyone can write war fiction, but he was there. He wrote it as only a true vet could write it. You could feel his relief, after surviving a horrible fire fight. You could feel his joy when he was on a 3-day pass. And you could feel his pain when he was nearly blown to pieces by what every ‘Nam vet knows of – a bouncing betty.
    Cinch your helmet, grab your web gear, lock and load, and prepare for Viet Nam the way it was. I was there too. As we used to say, “there it is.”

  • Lien Lozado
    5:37 on November 22nd, 2012
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    In fact, I was flying the helicopter from which the cover picture was taken and my crew captured the NVA weapons shown inside. Kregg does an outstanding job of capturing life in a forward reconnaissance unit during the height of the Viet Nam War.

  • Virtual Tour
    7:43 on November 22nd, 2012
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    When I first started studying the Vietnam war, books on the subject were not that easy to come by. Now there are shelves upon shelves of them at the local bookstore. The great drawback to many of these is that their historical worth is often tainted by the author’s own agenda.

    There are three types of books I usually find: The ones where the author is trying to “blow your mind” with the weirdness of Nam; the ones where the author is writing in defense of his (and the US) actions in Nam, or the one where the author is trying very hard to portray himself as a great heroic warrior.

    This slim volume does not fall into the same trap. There are plenty of surreal moments in the book (for few things can create such surreal moments as life in a war zone), and the author does not deny his own bravery under fire. But it is delivered more like a journal, written for the author himself rather than for publication. The result is a very honest, clear, and flowing read that captures the essence of the infantry experience without bogging down in the morass of politics or apology.

  • Tombo
    10:06 on November 22nd, 2012
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    Kregg Jorgenson takes you through his very personal and both physically and mentally painful account of his entire time in Vietnam. Although a decorated “hero”, he shows us how he found something far more improtant than his medals or cause: his “buddies”. He guides the reader through the numerous harrowing experiences that re-shaped his whole way of thinking and does not try to gloss over his own shortcomings. The one over-riding thing I can say about this book is that it is honest. There are no stats, no overall perspective, just the plain truth about what he witnessed and felt during his tour. That is the most shocking, honourable, moving and often funny thing he can write. An immensely enjoyable book, so much so I read it virtually everywhere I got a chance to sit down; gripping to the last.

  • cbemerine
    12:18 on November 22nd, 2012
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    If Bob Mason’s Chickenhawk was the best book about Vietnam from a chopper pilot’s seat, then Fred Downs’ memoir is one of the best from the grunts’ point of view. Downs’ story starts quietly and build slowly, in his dry, almost laconic style, to an abrupt and horrifying conclusion. The sheer awfulness and horror of life in the jungle, humpin’ the boonies, and taking nameless ridges in fierce firefights at such awful costs (and then giving them back to the enemy) becomes slowly evident in Fred Downs’ matter-of-fact descriptions. One scene in particular sticks in my mind – how Downs and his men dig up a fresh grave looking for a possible weapons cache. They find nothing but a rotting corpse, so simply throw the shovels at a couple of wailing Vietnamese women to finish the job of re-burying the body. On the way out of the graveyard, they pull some onions to “spice up their C rations.” Downs says he thought briefly about how hardened he had become, but the thought left him quickly. Wounded only slightly three times, earning three purple hearts, Downs begins to think he’s got a charmed life. But the fourth ribbon is not so easily earned, as, not quite halfway through his tour, Downs triggers a bouncing betty land mine and this time loses an arm and is horrifically wounded. His war is suddenly over, and ends this, his first Vietnam story. Perhaps almost as moving as the original story is the new Afterword Downs penned for the 2006 edition of The Killing Zone (originally published in 1978). His stories of the fates of his men and comrades – of lives tragically cut short or forever changed by crippling and disfiguring wounds – are enough to make you weep. I am not surprised that this book has stayed in print continuously for nearly 30 years and is now on the reading list at West Point. It needs to be read. There are lessons to be learned in its pages. – Tim Bazzett, author of Soldier Boy: At Play in the ASA

  • Sander Bos
    12:41 on November 22nd, 2012
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    Raw, unmitigated reality of the Vietnam war. Downs relates his Vietnam, story, of an inexperienced, fresh-out of officer’s school, 23 year old Lieutenant – who led men into one of the most dangerous combat zones in Vietnam: the Killing Zone. Downs tells of the men fighting in his unit, a big city type who was always brushing his teeth; a radio operator who made coffee as bullets raked about him. Downs journey is intense. It’s about what they did daily : find and kill other soldiers, and suffer casualties by them in turn. It’s about what happened to their minds and bodies, because Downs tells the cruel reality of being a soldier. He captures it by describing his unit as men that : “liked killing other men.” The writing is clear, and less opinionated than you would expect; the story is gripping. The book draws you in. I learned from the Killing Zone, and I recommend it. Downs does more with facts, than many do with metaphors.

  • raccole
    15:27 on November 22nd, 2012
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    As I read each word and turned each page I remembered all the horrors of war. Of all the novels I have read there has not been one that more closely stated the everyday happenings, the fear, the funny, the sad, and most of all the feelings of what am I doing here. There are fifty some thousand names on a honored wall that were the heroes, but every man that served did so in good faith for his country.Most would do it again. Semper Fi to all.

  • dancingangel
    17:00 on November 22nd, 2012
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    I was in A Troop Blues in 1966. Kregg, even though he writes very well, wrote about the Blues of his time. This book does not describe the Blues of 1966. The Blues of 1966 was constantly in combat and when not actually in the jungle patrolling, manned a wire perimeter and kept the enemy out of the forward camp. There was never any time for activities as described in Kregg’s book, not in 1966 anyway. The men of A Troop in 1966 were very lucky if they averaged 2 hours of sleep per night. Kregg’s book should not be taken as activities conducted throughout the Vietnam War. One has to remember that Vietnam stretched over a long period of time and even in war, things change.

  • John Hender
    19:04 on November 22nd, 2012
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    I have read over 100 books dealing with the Vietnam War and found Acceptable Loss to be one of the best. I had to pass this book along to friends to read. The title, Acceptable Loss, says volumes as how war is often played by the higher command. Cannon fauter is a by product of war. God help you if you are one of the expendables. The combat scenes made me break out in a sweat. I had to re-read them over and over. God bless ones’ fellow grunts and God bless America.

  • Kayla J. Beverly
    20:36 on November 22nd, 2012
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    Although a combat veteran of Vietnam, I had (or thought I had) put the war behind me for the first dozen years back. Then I ran across Fred’s book, saw that it dealt with D 1/14th and bought it. And read it. And read it again.

    I humped with Delta on a few occasions in 1969-70 as a fill-in enlisted FO (Recon Sgt) and remember the stories from some of the short-timers about the mythical period of a year previous when the company left the roads and entered the jungle. Fred was part of that transition period.

    When my wife first started asking me about Vietnam in the late-80′s, I gave her “The Killing Zone” as a primer. I told her after she finished she would have a sufficient background to understand my story. The same situation occurred with my son in the early-90′s when he was in college. I now pick up copies whenever I find them in the used bookstores to give to civilians who want to hear “war stories”, with the proviso that they read the book first.

    As I write this I realize that I am not a proper person to provide a review of this book, since it is like trying to judge a prequel to my own experience. So I will only say that it is a totally honest book. If you are a combat veteran, you will recognize it. If you are a civilian or a non-combat troop, you will come away with a greater appreciation of what the war was like at grunt-eye level.

    Mike Medley

  • David Y Moore
    20:55 on November 22nd, 2012
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    Written with common sense. Factual, but doesn’t read like a reference guide. If you like the works of say, Mark Twian or Walter Isaacson, you’ll like this writer’s style. I believe it might out do “Kill Me If You, You SOB” because of the depth.

  • pablov
    21:37 on November 22nd, 2012
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    Frederick Downs was a an infantry officer in Vietnam from late 1967 through early 1968 when he was severely wounded and ultimately lifted out the war.

    His story, written in 1978 is honest, gritty and full of inner thoughts. From the writing style, he comes across as smart, determined and a good soldier. There is no gung-ho, let me at em type of rhetoric but more of there’s a job to do, let’s do it and not be stupid. His concerns for the men in his command grow over his time in country and as more of his men are killed, wounded or rotated out of Vietnam he takes the pain more and more personally. It wears away at his inner soul.

    He’s honest to a fault insomuch as he refers to all Vietnamese as “dinks” whether friend or foe. He castigates the ARVN soldiers as useless, afraid to fight and more than willing to let the Americans die in their place. He highlights many problems about the whole Vietnam episode but, even at his lowest point, there’s a job to do and men to protect. More than likely, the welfare and protection of his men is what kept him sane and on task.

    I’ve read many, many Vietnam memoirs. All the writings are guttural and honest but, somehow, Downs’ memoir goes a little further in exploring his inner thoughts. The tone of the book is one of someone who has a job to do and isn’t too concerned with the politics that got him to where he is. His job is to make sure his men survive by employing sound, sensible and tested tactics against an enemy that is cunning, dirty and determined.

    Vietnam seemed to have a way of turning young boys into men quickly in that, spit, shine, patriotism and gung-ho are replaced by survival in a hurry.

    Down’s was injured severely and the original book ended where his heart stopped on an operating table. In 2007 he added an afterword that goes on to detail his unit’s missions after his untimely departure due to his injuries. He also brings us up to date on the whereabouts of his men since Vietnam. Also, the afterword details his many trips back to Vietnam as a U.S. envoy trying to open dialogue aimed at learning more about U.S. MIA, POW.

    It’s a great story that, for me, is one of the better ones.
    Thank you for your service Mr. Downs and thank you so much for writing it all down for us.

  • Robert Hill
    23:35 on November 22nd, 2012
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    This is one of the best personal accounts of the vietnam war.

    Kregg Jorgenson is one of my heros, but also one of Americas, he
    is decorated with the silver star, the bronze star and 3 purple
    Kregg Jorgenson (KJ) tell his story how he lived it.

    KJ started his service in Vietnam with the 1 cavalry division, while at the repo center he decided to join the Ranger company of the 1 cav; Hotel company.
    After a short training period he started going out on patrols and soon got into his first firefight.
    A short while later his partol got into a more serious firefight
    that saw the ATL and his best friend killed in action and another
    team member woundet, KJ and his teamleader performed admirable, getting the whole team extrated under fire while fighting off the NVA.
    Even though that KJ felt that he had failed his teammates and his best friend, the division decidet that the Teamleader and KJ deserved the Silver star.
    Having lost confidence in himself as a ranger, KJ decidet to quit the Rangers, he tranfered to A troop ( aka Apache) of the 1/9.
    First he tried out the scouts, but his stomach could not handle the rollercoaster rides, he decides to join the infantry platoon of apache troop, the Blues.
    Here he served as a squadleader, and he did not mind walking point, some said that he enjoyed it.
    His service in apache troop got him inte several firefight, that saw him woundet two more times and earning a bronze star for valor.
    He also had the disputed honor of being shoot on camera while in a shootout with a NVA pointman, KJ killed the NVA pointman but was hit in both legs during in the process.
    so KJ had the “honor” of being called “the sarge who like to walk point”, making him a national hero in an efternoon.

    Acceptable loss is one of my favorite books, it is well written, many of the episodes in the books has been well documented in other books, KJ writes with a sarcasm and self ironi that offen makes you laugh, he makes his comrades in the blues platoon come alive and you get the feeling that you almost know them in person.
    A very good books by any standart, go buy it, you will not regret

    Bo Hermansen

  • Ari Herzog
    1:27 on November 23rd, 2012
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    Especially in the way the author describes LRRP missions, this memoir made me feel and smell the sweat, th mud, the paddies, etc. And fear. The courage portrayed is mind boggling and I can never understand how much it took to go into the jungle for days. As far as it goes, Acceptable Loss does give a hint. In my ‘Nam studies that continue to expand, this book is right up there near the top, primarily in the memoir arena.

  • Linda Kling
    2:11 on November 23rd, 2012
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    I very much enjoyed this book. It was well written and well worth reading in the context of the world in 2010 and the current conflicts around the globe. I have not been in the military myself, but I felt like it was portraying the thoughts and emotions of joining the service, training, and serving fairly and accurately as far as I could tell.

  • Peter E Thompson
    3:05 on November 23rd, 2012
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    This book belongs on a short list including Phillip Caputo’s “A Rumor of War” and Lt. General Harold G. Moore’s “We Were Soldiers Once…and Young,” as one of the best first person narratives to come out of the Vietnam War. Downs was a fresh faced platoon leader who, like “Born on the Fourth of July”‘s Ron Kovic, looked forward to the opportunity to prove his mettle under fire. Like Kovic, Downs came back from the war with a shattered body and a psyche that was deeply affected by what he experienced. Down’s account of Vietnam is simple and straightforward. He is also an excellent writer and his book is a compulsive page turner. This is not a book that should be missed by those with an interest in America’s most tragic war.

    4:23 on November 23rd, 2012
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    A very good book of one mans experiences. A must read in my opinion.

  • RTCheatham
    9:17 on November 23rd, 2012
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    A few weeks ago i read Acceptable Loss for the second time after first reading it several years ago. Over the last ten years ive read well over a 100 memoirs written by guys who served in WW2 and Vietnam and in my opinion this book ranks up there as one of the better ones. Its fast paced and interesting yet its not just a book of war stories, in comparison with my other fav vietnam memoirs like Chickenhawk, Ghosts and Shadows, Baptism, Killing Zone, Father Soldier Son and Hundred Miles it too delves a few layers deeper than your average memoir in describing the physical and psychological toll combat in an unpopular war has on a young man. After finsishing the book while down the jersey shore on vacation this past summer i made it a point to see for the first time the n.j. vietnam veterans memorial during my trip north on the garden state parkway and find the name of the ranger who was killed while on patrol with Kregg towards the begining of the book. …. As for the book i highly recommend it to military buffs and many others who may be thinking about reading a first person account of the war.

  • Khurram S Zaveri
    12:50 on November 23rd, 2012
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    Its a simple, yet eloquent book. Its beginning is a little slow, but makes up for it throughout the book. The stories throught the book give the chilling details and dont hold any punches. You want a short version of Vietnam and its realities, read this book. If not, then read it anyway. Good book.

  • Idon'tknow
    13:16 on November 23rd, 2012
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    After reading Dispatches, I was puzzled with the Lurps. Half of the time spent by Jorgenson in Vietnam was with them and after he still shared a few missions with them. The book is gripping in the content. The writing is better than average level. Not as polished as Michael Herr’s or Tobias Wolff memoirs but ok.

    Two flaws I’ve noticed: The author never mentions the nickname Lurp associated to the LRRPS, while Herr uses it frequently. So I presume Jorgenson had some kind of freudian complex about it? Second one, more scary, is when he says that the prisioners taken by them were interrogated (i.e. tortured) only by the intelligence people. Herr, again, says that they also did it. I don’t know if it was the exception or the rule, but I also suspect Jorgenson is hiding things, maybe by shame.

    Anyway, a good read for people interested in the subject. Fast action, a few interesting thoughts, and accurate dialogues.

  • Fanboys
    14:26 on November 23rd, 2012
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    Not one for many words, but bottom line an excellent book. Well written, and gives a very clear portrayal of DOwns’ unit. Men like him deserve the utmost respect. And in my eyes he was a true hero.

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